Fellowship of Fundamental Bible Churches - Annual Conference Overview - Monday and Tuesday
The 66th Annual Conference of The Fellowship of Fundamental Bible Churches took place Monday, August 15 - Thursday, August 18, 2005 at Tri-State Bible Camp and Conference Center in Montague, New Jersey. The following is a report of the events of the Conference.
The Annual Conference officially began with the opening service at the Tri-State Chapel. Dr. Tony Fox, Exeutive Director of Foreign Development for Northland Baptist Bible College and until recently Vice President of Academic Affairs at NBBC, was the speaker for the evening services for the week. Tapes of the evening services are available from Tri-State Bible Camp.
Each night, Dr. Fox preached on the theme of "Struggles in the Ministry." Dr. Fox commented that we the struggles in ministry are universal because we have an adversary that is universal. On Monday night, Dr. Fox preached on The Struggle over our Inadequacy for Ministry and dealt in particular with the example of Moses as found in the book of Exodus. Dr. Fox commented that we have this treasure in earthen vessels (2 Cor 4:7) and that we, who are descendants of lumps of dirt are engaged in communicating divine revelation. Dr. Fox also commented that God had to break Moses in the desert, and that often God has to break us of our own sense of greatness before we are instruments fit for His use. Satan often tries to get us to focus on our selves, but we need to realize that it does not matter who we are or what we lack - what matters is Who God is.
Tuesday, August 16
Tuesday morning featured a message from the Word of God, a business session and a panel discussion. Pastor Steve Snavely of Grace Baptist Church of Highland Falls, New York gave the morning message as he preached on Prayer - encouraging us regarding the frequency and fervency of our prayers.
The Tuesday morning business session included normal business items such as minutes and reports, as well as elections, with Pastor Mark Franklin of Hardingville Bible Church in Monroeville, New Jersey being re-elected as the President of the Fellowship of Fundamental Bible Churches.
Tuesday mid-morning consisted of a Panel Discussion entitled Key Issues in the Culture War. Panelist for this discussion included Dr. Tony Fox, Dr. Al Martin (Instructor for Fundamental Bible Institute), Mr. Frank D'Agostino (a layman from Faith Fellowship Baptist Church in Mt. Laurel, New Jersey), and Pastor Frank Sansone (Pastor of Messiah Baptist Fellowship of Salisbury, Maryland). The discussion included questions from the floor and essentially focused on three areas of the culture war (life vs. death, marriage vs. sexual idolatry, and expression of faith vs. suppression of faith), dealing with the evaluation of cultural issues as they appear and responding to these issues as Christians. Mr. Frank D'Agostino discussed some issues that laymen face in the corporate world regarding these issues. Emphasis was also made on the fact that the cultural battle is often best dealt with on a spiritual level, a personal level, and an pre-emptive level. Dealing with the cultural issues on a spiritual level involves the recognition that these things ultimately are heart issues and that it is God Who changes the heart and that salvation in Christ brings about changes that no amount of human effort could ever accomplish. Dealing with cultural issues on a personal level emphasizes the importance of dealing with individuals on a one-on-one basis rather than focusing on the groups. Dealing with cultural issues on a pre-emptive level emphasizes the need to respond to corruption in culture before the corruption has been allowed to become the norm. Discussion also involved the importance of not letting the issues take precedence in ministry, and explored the relationship of Fundamentalists to the groups and leaders of these cultural battles.
After an afternoon of food and fellowship (including the annual Pastors v. Delegates Softball Game, which was won this year by the Pastors), the evening service again featured an excellent message by Dr. Tony Fox, this time on the Struggle for Purity in the Ministry. Dr. Fox dealt with the false view of the body as found in 1 Corinthians 6 and then focused on the example of Joseph in Genesis 39, considering two key realities that helped Joseph to remain pure during the time of temptation. The first reality was that sexual immorality is primarily a sin against God because it is a sin against God's temple (our body) and because it is a sin against the owner of the body. The second reality that Joseph understood that the flesh is powerful - its characteristic is weak (Mt. 26:41), its composition is "not good" (Rom. 7:12), its consequences is death (Rom. 8:5) and its confidence is to be none (Rom 13:14, Phil 3:3). In light of these truths, Dr. Fox discussed the problem of men coming into our colleges with problems in this area and encouraged us to put up safeguards in our lives to help us win over the struggle for purity in the ministry.
After a break, Tuesday night concluded with a Question and Answer Time with Dr. Fox for the Pastors of the F.F.B.C. This annual time of heart to heart conversation with the speaker is often a time of great blessing to the Pastors and this year was no exception to that rule.
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FFBC - 2005 Annual Conference Overview - Monday & Tuesday
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FFBC - 2005 Annual Conference Overview - Wednesday & Thursday
Fellowship of Fundamental Bible Churches - Conference Overview - Wednesday and Thursday
[b]Wednesday, August 17
Wednesday morning consisted of a message from God's Word, a business session, and a workshop. Pastor Frank Sansone of Messiah Baptist Fellowship of Salisbury, Maryland gave the morning message and focused on the need to be faithful men of God, following the example of Epaphras as found in Colossians and Philemon - dealing with the descriptions of the man of God (fellowservant, faithful minister, etc.), the demeanor of the man of God (humble, zealous, identified with his people), and the duties of the man of God (to proclaim the Word of God, to protect the flock of God, and to pray for the people of God).
The Wednesday morning business session included the introduction of Mr. Chris Jenkins as the new Program Director for Tri-State Bible Camp, reports and other business items, and the passing of two resolutions - Resolution #1 - "The Legacy of Billy Graham" and Resolution #2 - "The Pope and Christianity Today." (These resolutions are posted separately.)
Following the morning business session, Pastor Mark Franklin, President of the F.F.B.C. and Executive Committee member of the American Council of Christian Churches, held a workshop entitled "Trends in Fundamentalism." In this presentation, Pastor Franklin dealt with positives and challenges that we see in Fundamentalism today.
Listed by Pastor Franklin as some positives in Fundamentalism today included the following:
1. Good, open discussion taking place with allowable disagreement,
2. The identifying of some of the non-issues in Fundamentalism, and
3. An openness to a discussion within the family of Fundamentalism.
Other positives listed in the discussion time that Pastor Franklin encouraged included the growth and development of good Fundamental colleges and seminaries, the emphasis upon expository preaching, a depth in preaching and teaching, and the number of men who have a desire to stand true.
Listed by Pastor Franklin as some challenges within Fundamentalism today included the following:
1. There is still a need for clarity regarding Fundamentalism,
2. There is a need to distance ourselves from those men and ministries who are hurting our cause while claiming our label, and
3. There is a need to be relevant without compromise.
Other challenges brought out during the discussion included a danger to follow personalities, a propensity to overly divide, a need to reaffirm the bench marks of what is open for discussion, and the need to shore up the priority of purity.
Pastor Franklin then observed that doctrine is essential to the life of the church (Acts 2:42, 2 Tim. 3:16) and that "words" are important for they are that which we are to study (2 Tim. 2:14-15) and wrong words are to be shunned (2 Tim. 2:16-18). Pastor Franklin concluded that there is a great need in our Fundamental churches for (1) Sound doctrine, (2) Clarity and precision, and (3) Exposing false teachers.
Wednesday is "Family Day" at the Annual Conference, so Wednesday afternoon was reserved for families to go swimming, fishing, relax around the campsite, play games or take short sight-seeing trips to nearby attractions.
On Wednesday night, Dr. Tony Fox gave his last message of the week as he preached on Our Struggle to Compromise in the Ministry. Dr. Fox indicated how that one of the issues in Poland and the Eastern Block during the early days of those nations becoming "open" to the Gospel was the trend to accept everything that called itself Christianity. Dr. Fox emphasized the three "But Thou" expressions in this passage (2 Tim 3:10, 3:14, 4:5) and encouraged us to watch and continue and to proclaim all of the scripture in light of the coming day (2 Tim. 4:1).
Thursday, August 18
On Thursday morning, the conference included a message from God's Word, a business session, and a time of testimonies and prayer as we dismissed. Pastor Robert Rogish of Faith Fellowship Baptist Church gave the morning message as he challenged us to take up the stones of Prayer, Joyful Service, Separation, Standards, and Protecting the Family.
The Thursday morning business session included some final reports and other similar items of business, as well as the passing of six additional resolutions - Resolution #3 - "Progressive Creationism," Resolution #4 - "Judicial Dilemma," Resolution #5 - "Thankful for God's Goodness," Resolution #6 - "Salvation by Christ Alone," Resolution #7 - "A Faithful Servant" (honoring Mr. Keith Lambertson and his family - the property manager of Tri-State Bible Camp), and Resolution #8 - "In Appreciation of our Host". Resolutions # 3, 4, and 6 are posted separately.
Following the meeting there was a time of testimony and prayer at the "Fellowship Circle" (a tradition dating back over fifty years) and the conference was closed with the singing of "Blest Be the Tie that Binds."
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Book Tag
Friday, August 11, 2006Many of you have seen the popular "Book Tag" game that has been going around the Internet. Well, I have been tagged by Chris Anderson, so I will oblige with my answers to the One Book Tag. These answers may be subject to change as I think about them more, but here is at least my initial answers.
1. One book that changed your life.
While not stated, it is assumed that for all of the relevant questions, the Bible is excluded as the obvious choice for those questions. While that should be obvious, I just wanted to make sure I mentioned it up front lest someone get the wrong idea.
This first one, in particular, seems to be tough.
I know I have to narrow this down, but I am torn between two particular books for two vastly different reasons.
On the one hand, I could say, "Jack Hyles' Favorite Soul-Winning Experiences." Now, before you jump on me, let me explain. While I was never a big follower of Hyles, I had a man who had been very influential in my life when I was a new believer and he was a big advocate of the Bus Ministry and, by extension, Hyles. There was a church plant that I had helped with as a teenager and idea had been floated around that if I went to HAC, then when I graduated there would be a Youth Pastor position available for me at that church. For a 17 year-old teen who had only been saved a few years, this was an exciting possibility. Reading this book opened my eyes to the error of the "A-B-C Pray After Me" approach to "Soul Winning."
On the positive side of things, I would say that a little biography called Bill Borden: The Finished Course - the Unfinished Task about Missionary Bill Borden was a life changing book for me. This little book was a powerful challenge and example to me of giving my all to Christ.
2. One book that you've read more than once.
I was going to say, The Disciplined Life by Richard Taylor. I first read it as required reading for a Youth Work class with Dr. Walter Freemont at BJU and have subsequently come back to it a number of times, but I see that Andy Efting has already chosen that one.
Another book that I have read repeatedly and found profitable and challenging is Spiritual Leadership by J. Oswald Sanders. This is one of those books I have on my short list of books to try to read at least every other year. Godliness thru Discipline by Jay Adams is another book that falls into this category.
3. One book you'd want on a deserted island
US Army Survival Manual: FM 21-76
I recognize that the spirit of that question is not on survival, so in that light, I would take my set of Spurgeon's Sermons that used to be my wife's Grandfather Marken - a godly saint who planted churches and started Sunday Schools in Ohio during the middle of the last century. It is a gift that I hold dear and it would be a great companion on a deserted island.
If I am not allowed to take a set of books, I think I would take a copy of Living Hymns or some other hymnbook.
4. One book that made you laugh
Reader's Digest Treasury of Great Humor
5. One book that made you cry.
In the Presence of My Enemies by Gracia Burnham - the story of some New Tribes Missionaries taken captive by terrorists in 2001. I admit that I cried as I thought about the ordeal that they experienced and the effect it would have on my family.
6. One book that you wish had been written.
Biblically Based Discipleship - A Theological and Practical Guide towards Assisting Others Towards Christlikeness - by Pastor Frank Sansone (maybe some day)
God Sent Revival - How God Changed Christians and the World during the 20th & 21st Centuries
7. One book that you wish had never been written.
I would say probably the Koran or The Book of Mormon because of the number of people that have been led astray by these books.
On a more recent level, Dr. Spock's Book on Child Care
8. One book that you are currently reading
I tend to have a number of books going on at one time. Since I am coaching my son's U-10 soccer team, I am currently reading about six books on soccer and coaching soccer that I checked out from the library. I am also reading The Wit and Widsom of Abraham Lincoln edited by Jack Lang and The Parson of the Islands by Adam Wallace about a man who ministered on the Eastern Shore during the 1800s.
9. One book that you've been meaning to read
Well, I have been meaning to finish Changed Into His Image by Jim Berg, but since I have at least started that one and am listening to his presentations on it, I guess I would say one of the other books I have been meaning to read is the two-volume biography of Hudson Taylor by Howard Taylor
10. Tag five people
I'll tag the following bloggers.
Andy Rupert of Isle Kerguelen
Jay Camp of The Preacher's Thoughts
Mark Griffin of The View from Windham Hill
Jason down at The Fundamentalist Resource Center
Scott Aniol at Religious Affections
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Honesty in Print and Speech
Tuesday, August 08, 2006Over the years, I have heard some discussion about Pastors who make themselves the hero of all of their illustrations and who put themselves in stories that were not really about themselves.
I came across the same thing today while reading a book entitled, Life Lessons from Soccer, I came across two well-known stories that have made the rounds via email and jokes for a number of years. The one dealt with the substituting "tents" for "tense" and the other dealt with someone betting on event on TV that they had already seen and then after they won the bet, revealing that they had already seen it only to have the other person say, "I saw it too, but I did not think that he could do it again."
Now, the fact that the jokes/stories are corny are bad enough, but that is not my concern at this time. What bugged me as I read these stories, however, was that in both cases, the author made it appear as though these things were directly related to him. In the one case, it involved his kids' soccer team. In the other case, it involved his two sons.
Now, I would guess that it is possible, however remote that both of these popular things also happened to him, but it seems kind of fishy to me.
When faced in a secular book about soccer, maybe it does not make much difference (I mean, after all, who besides Ben Wright and Bob Bixby actually cares about soccer :)?), however, when coming from a Pastor or one who handles the Word of God, this is a griveous sin. Not only is lying a sin, it is also affects the credibility of the other things that we say.
Hopefully, no one reading this actually has a problem in this area, but after reading these two examples within the space of ten or so pages and feeling like I was wasting my time reading this book, I thought back to comments I have heard in the past about Pastors who do the same thing and thought I would encourage us to be careful in this area.
Just my thoughts,
Frank
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Standards and Fences
Saturday, August 05, 2006Standards and Fences
There are many today who like to equate having standards and guidelines as a form of legalism or Phariseeism and as contrary to the grace of God working in a person's life. The end of this equation is that anyone who advocates that others adopt standards in their lives to help keep themselves from falling into a particular sin is "adding to the Scripture" and is teaching for doctrine the commandments of men.
It seems interesting to me that the ones who I most often interact with on this type of conversation are people who have previously been in Fundamentalism, usually of the more extreme variety. It seems to me that there must be something in leaving the extremes that tends to move you towards the opposite extreme.
In one recent conversation on this topic, one individual commented (not to me) that "You don't have a supernatural religion, therefore you can't keep your thoughts pure without ‘going beyond what is written.'" Another an individual commented that "standards are a human-based solution to a deadness so profound that only God can change it" and "Standards promoters feel it is important to have faith, the correct doctrine, and the Triune Deity, but instead of actually having these things, they may only image (sic - I assume he meant imagine) that they do. The commands and wisdom of the Scriptures must be shored up where necessary by fences and rules. The Pharisees believed in this way..."
So, if I follow this reasoning, the following things are true about those who believe that having and maintaining standards can be a good thing.
1. They do not have a supernatural religion, but a fake religion.
2. Standards are "going beyond what is written" because you can't keep yourself pure with that fake religion.
3. Standards are the result of a profound deadness.
4. Standards promoters do not have faith, correct doctrine or the Triune Deity, just think they do.
5. Standards promoters do not believe in the sufficiency of Scripture.
6. Standards promoters are following the path of the Pharisees.
The reality, of course, is that numbers 1, 3, & 4 (at least are all the same thing) - those who believe in having, keeping, and encouraging others in the area of standards are lost.
I recognize that there are many groups out there who believe that keeping their standards are what makes or keeps them holy. Sadly, those individuals are severely mistaken. We do not merit grace, it is the gift of God. However, there is a large difference between having, keeping and encouraging standards and believing that it is those standards that make me right with God.
I am married. As a result of being married, there are some things that I will not do because I love my wife. There are some guidelines that I have set up so that I will not displease her (even though I am sure that there are plenty of other areas where I do displease her). I follow these things because I love Missy and I do not want to displease her, not because I believe that keeping those guidelines is all I need in order to keep my relationship with Missy what it should be.
Not only are having appropriate guidelines and standards helpful from a practical standpoint, they are also consistent with Biblical teaching about these things.
For instance, the Apostle Paul writes in Romans 13:14,
But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.
It seems to me that in order to fulfill that admonition, one must have an understanding of what types of things provide for our flesh so that we can avoid making provision for it.
Even more pointedly, Jesus Christ Himself seems to give a radical view of the seriousness of setting up fences so that we do not fall.
Notice these words of Jesus Christ,
Matthew 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
It seems strange to me that when someone argues, "If having unfiltered internet access causes thee to look after a woman to lust, thou shouldest get a filter on your internet rather than persist in that sin" they are viewed as being legalistic and having a false religion, when Christ says "pluck out the eye" if it causes you to stumble or "cut off that hand" if doing so will keep you from going down this pathway to sin.
Now, I recognize that the "non-standards" people will argue that "well, you are not Christ", but it seems to me that the principle from Christ is still applicable - if there is something we can do that keeps us away from those temptations (e.g. erecting a standard or a practice to avoid the problem - or "cutting off our hand"), then surely this is a wise and prudent thing to do.
Just my thoughts,
Frank
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100th Post Milestone and Comments
I recently passed a blogging milestone, and in the process made some adjustments to my blog.
I have now made over 100 posts on this blog. Some of which I pray have been helpful or encouraging or at least thought-provoking or interesting. I have been sporadic in my posting (sometimes worse than others), but I have generally posted at least something every week or so (except recently), often times posting multiple items in a week.
While I was on vacation, I thought about some things that I would like to do with my actual posting, but I wanted to take care of some other things first.
The first thing that I wanted to do was to fix the categories issue. I thought a few months ago that I had solved the problem of trying to get categories in Blogger. The problem, however, was that the solution I had followed did not pick up any of the older posts. I have looked for a way to work around this and have been disappointed in my options. I thought about going over to WordPress (in fact I have migrated my blog over there awhile ago, but I have not added anything to it because I can't figure out how to personalize the templates or do anything else of the kind). I finally developed a work around that I hope will work better than what I have been doing. My work around? I created an additional blog called, "Categories for A Thinking Man's Thoughts" (don't you like the clever title?) The purpose of this other blog is simply to point back to articles in particular categories on this blog. We'll see how it works.
The second thing that I wanted to do was to provide a way for other readers to be able to see the things that others were commenting upon. Andy Rupert over at Isle Kerguelen had this feature on his Blogger blog, and he kindly pointed me to how to take care of this problem as well. (It is still not exactly what I want, but it is at least a step in the right direction.)
Anyway, to those of you who have been along with me for many of the first 100 posts, thanks for reading.
Just my thoughts,
Frank
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Academic Freedom?
Saturday, July 22, 2006This article is particularly telling regarding the what is considered "academic freedom" today. (HT: Greg Linscott)
Notice the first few paragraphs:
The request seemed simple enough to the Rev. Hershael W. York, then the president of the Kentucky Baptist Convention. He asked Georgetown College, a small Baptist liberal arts institution here, to consider hiring for its religion department someone who would teach a literal interpretation of the Bible.
But to William H. Crouch Jr., the president of Georgetown, it was among the last straws in a struggle that had involved issues like who could be on the board of trustees and whether the college encouraged enough freedom of inquiry to qualify for a chapter of Phi Beta Kappa.
Dr. Crouch and his trustees decided it was time to end the college’s 63-year affiliation with the religious denomination. “From my point of view, it was about academic freedom,’’ Dr. Crouch said. “I sat for 25 years and watched my denomination become much more narrow and, in terms of education, much more interested in indoctrination.’’
If the article is accurate, all the president of the KBC did was ask them to "consider" hiring someone who actually believes the Bible and the president of the college determined that this was an attack on academic freedom that could not be tolerated.
Wow! If he was truly interested in "freedom of inquiry" it would seem like it would have been a wise thing to think about hiring someone who actually had a different point of view than what was already there - wouldn't that be "diversity" and therefore to be highly valued among liberal educators?
The reality, of course, is that neither "diversity" nor "freedom of inquiry" is truly valued by the liberal crowd. What is valued is forcing their view down people's throats while not allowing the other viewpoints to be publicly espoused without ridicule or censure (see the vehemence demonstrated when people try to get a simple disclaimer added to evolutionary textbooks). The "diversity" and "freedom of inquiry" angles are only helpful when one is in the minority position and wants to force their views in against others. Now that the liberal view is in control in places like this, the values of "diversity" and "freedom of inquiry" are thrown out the window because they were not valued by the left for principled reasons, but rather for utilitarian reasons. Now that the pragmatic usefulness of these principles might be used by the other side, we find that the principles are thrown aside because these precious principles were not really valued in the first place.
Just my thoughts,
Frank
File under: Culture War
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Charles Spurgeon on Music and Composition
Wednesday, July 19, 2006In my study this afternoon, I came across this from Charles Spurgeon in his Treasury of David on Psalm 18. Considering the amount of discussion related to this around the Christian blogosphere, I thought I would add this to the discussion.
Being possessed of poetic genius, he served the Lord by composing this Psalm for the use of the Lord's house; and it is no mean work to conduct or to improve that delightful part of divine worship, the singing of the Lord's praises. Would that more musical and poetical ability were consecrated, and that our chief musicians were fit to be trusted with devout and spiritual psalmody. It should be observed that the words of this song were not composed with the view of gratifying the taste of men, but were spoken unto Jehovah. It were well if we had a more single eye to the honour of the Lord in our singing, and in all other hallowed exercises. That praise is little worth which is not directed solely and heartily to the Lord.
Just Spurgeon's thoughts,
Frank
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A Poem from Carol Lewis
Tuesday, July 18, 2006Last week, as we prepared to leave for our Vacation to Williamsburg, my mother-in-law wrote a poem for us to leave for our guests while we were gone. (Pastor and Mrs. Terry Smith stayed in our house for the weekend as he came down to preach to the folks at Fellowship Baptist Church while we were away.)
If you have small children (in particular), perhaps you may appreciate this poem from my mother-in-law.
You might find some tiny handprints upon my window panes
and probably on the rug there are many sorts of stains.
There even just might be a toy not in the proper place.
Most of the time, I am afraid, that's usually the case
I really could spend all my time to make this house superb.
My garden could be beautiful and full of growing herbs.
I could work here in my house and capture every speck of dust
and if my children touch a thing, I could make an awful fuss
But I think that while I dust, and sweep, and keep ahead of dirt
the Lord would want me to remember, each tugging at my skirt
For He's the one who blessed me with each hungry little face
and I have my loving home because of His amazing grace
So if you find a sock inside of something other than a shoe
or if there is a jelly stain upon my carpet too
I probably was outside that day enjoying God's little gifts
six healthy pairs of hands and feet ..three faces I can kiss.
May I always make the time to show them all of God's great love,
to pray with them on bended knee, to Jesus up above
To lead them to a greater life that someday we will share
within a perfect heavenly home, beautiful and fair.
Sometimes the house takes second place, tis not always spic & span
but I pray that in our home is seen the working of God's hand.
*Written by Carol Lewis (Missy's Mom) - July 6, 2006
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Vacation in Williamsburg
Last week, my family and I had the opportunity to spend a week in Williamsburg, Virginia for our vacation. We had a great time. Being a history buff, I especially enjoyed the time in Colonial Williamsburg and visiting the historic sites of this past capital of Virginia.
The days can get pretty warm there and it is pretty rough on younger children to spend all day at the place, so we tend to generally take in things in "chunks" instead - in other words, go a few hours at time and then go swimming or something else. We did spend a couple of longer days on Monday and Friday, but overall we had a great time. The children really enjoy the activities at the end of the day, as they are generally military in nature and include the marching and the fife and drums and some type of shooting.
On Friday, Josiah and I had the opportunity to sit on some re-enactments of some actual items before the court of that day. We were seated in the jury (although none of the items on the docket were actually jury trials) and we able to see how various types of issues may have been resolved in that day.
I found the petitioning of the court for permission to have a Presbyterian Meeting House to be particularly interesting. The Chief Judge reminded the petitioner that, while they could have a meeting house due to the Act of Toleration, there were some things they could not do - such as have meetings and night and proselytize. It is important to remember, of course, that there was a "State Church" at this time in Virginia, as the Anglican Church was the official church. The concern for prosolytizing (or "fishing" as the judge also called it) was because they may take members away from the official state church. Today, we are finding an increased objection to "proselytizing" as well, and I wonder if at least part of that objection has to do with the fact that in witnessing, we may be seeing fruit among those who are part of our nation's current (but unofficial) state religion - radical secular humanism.
Just my thoughts,
Frank
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Vacation Bible School Comments
Friday, July 07, 2006Each Sunday, the back page of our church bulletin includes some "Notes from the Pastor's Pen." This is copied from the Notes from Pastor's Pen that was on Sunday's Bulletin.
Wow! What a week!
This past week, we held our first-ever Vacation Bible School here at Fellowship Baptist Church and I believe that things went pretty well and that God blessed the VBS in a great way. How did God bless us? Let me count some of the ways.
1. God blessed us with a good turn-out.
Considering that this is the first time we have ever held VBS, I believe that having in the mid-20s every day was a good turn-out considering the size of our church and the number of children we start with as a church.
2. God blessed us with a good crew.
It was exciting for me, as Pastor, to see the dedication and talents that God has given to our small assembly. From teaching to snacks and everywhere in between, people were ready, willing, faithful, and available to help this week. I had originally thought we would need to bring on some "outside help" for the week, but God was already preparing people in our own church for the tasks at hand.
3. God blessed us with "smooth sailing"
While not everything went exactly as desired, as a general rule everything went pretty well. There we no major areas of disturbances or difficulties.
4. God blessed us with one profession of faith.
We know that Isaiah tells us that God's Word will not return void, so we know that whether there are visible or numerical results, God is accomplishing His will as His word goes out, but it was especially neat to see one young child make a profession of faith during the week.
There are many other areas of God's blessing that were obvious during the week that space will not permit me to discuss here. It is exciting to be able to see God work and it is exciting to be able to serve God. Praise God for a good Vacation Bible School!
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Fathers and Sons
Tuesday, June 20, 2006One of the great things that I picked up from my time at Hardingville Bible Church is the concept of a Father/Son Campout. Each year on the Friday before Father's Day, HBC holds a camp-out specifically for the fathers and sons in the church. It is a great time of informal fellowship and spending time with our sons. My son loved it (and won the fishing contest that was part of it on our last year at HBC.)
This last Friday night, we held our first-ever Father-Son Campout and I think it went well. Jimmy and Linda (who own a house on the Nancticoke River) opened up their yard for us to come and throw up some tents and have a great time as fathers and sons.
Dave Reese and my son, Josiah, managed to hook and haul in a huge "skape" or sting ray. It took about 30 minutes and a broken net to wear it down before they were able to bring it to the dock. Unfortunately, it was too heavy for the line of Josiah's pole, so it became an "escaped skape." We did get a picture of it up close and personal though.
Dave also managed to catch the smallest fish of the night and John & Shane stayed up late pulling in about a dozen fish for a fish-fry. Tyler & Alex also cought themselves some pretty nice fish as part of the night.
We also played a short fathers versus sons soccer game (sons won) and had a cookout for dinner and a campfire for s'mores. Jimmy also took us out on the river for a ride and it was a great time of fellowship as men and boys.
We concluded with a time around the Word as we considered some advice from David to his son Solomon as David was nearing his death.
In a day in which fathers are often absent or absent-minded, it was nice to have a time where fathers and sons could spend some time together for the night.
If you are a Pastor out there, may I recommend this activity to you for some consideration.
Just my thoughts,
Frank
P.S. Sorry Chris, maybe you can do a Father-Daughter thing instead!
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A Father's Day Poem
Saturday, June 17, 2006Tomorrow is Father's Day. I will probably write a little more about this later, but for now I just wanted to post a poem that I wrote last year and we put on some wooden bookmarks that we gave to our men last Father's Day.
I am not a poet or the son of a poet (although my mother is an artist), but I submit this for your reading and challenge. Feel free to use it if you so desire.
A Father's Day Poem
I must be careful
as I live as father,
Love my dear children,
not count them a bother.
Teach them truth
in the way that I live
Show them God's wisdom
in the teaching I give.
Walking in Christ
as I walk before them.
Pointing them always,
always toward Him.
And this is my prayer,
as I pray all my days,
That they live for Christ,
both now and always.
Just my thoughts,
Frank
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A Couple of Recent Events
With all of the computer and other issues going around, I had neglected to give any type of report about some events that occurred at our church, Fellowship Baptist Church in Salisbury, Maryland, during the last month.
I am not going to blog about them here, but I did do a couple of late articles on my Pastoral Blog - The Pastor's Pen.
The articles are
BJU Drama Team at FBC Which (hold your seats) talks about the BJU Truth in Action Drama Team presentation of "A Grain of Wheat" on May 18.
Hardingville Bible Church Choir at FBC Which talks about the choir from the church where I previously served coming down for a sacred concert at Fellowship.
BTW, Dave Hibbard, the choir director, has also put out an excellent CD of sacred music entitled, Along Life's Road: Songs for My Savior. I believe that Dave still has some left if you would like to order them. He can be contacted at dhibbard@juno.com or at 856-863-4992.
Just some belated thoughts,
Frank
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A Plea to Name Names (sort of)
Monday, June 12, 2006One of the things that sometimes gets to me with the internet (as well as with other ways of conversation) is when people make statements against something and use nebulous examples to support their points.
So that I do not commit the same thing that I am complaining about, I will give a couple examples of what I mean. Please DO NOT take this as an attack on these individuals (I have areas of disagreement with these individuals, but those disagreements are not the point of this article), as I am sure that I myself have probably done the same thing.
Recently, Dr. Dan Burrell wrote a couple of articles for Sharper Iron (which I may comment on later). In the last article, he makes the following statement.
This author could type the name of an extremely well-known, nationally influential (retired) pastor who is legendary for swearing in private and in the pulpit. (We’re not talking about saying “gosh” or “darn” but words that used to get people’s mouths washed out with soap.) BUT . . . he’s been a major fundamentalist leader for nearly 80 years. So we just roll our eyes and mutter excuses. But if Franklin Graham or John Hagee or Bill Gaither were to use such language, the same eye-rollers would roundly and soundly condemn him as a foul-mouthed reprobate."
Now, I do not know of whom he is speaking. In fact, when someone on SI mentioned that it sounded like Dr. John Rawlings, I still did not if 1) the accusation was true, 2) who John Rawlings is, or 3) whether people knew about this and were covering it up - other than the one publicly commenting about it and 4) whether the person in question really fit the description(s) given. (I have a hard time identifying a person I have not heard of as "extremely well-known" and a "major fundamentalist leader", but I admit that I have not heard of everyone who is considered by others to be a "major fundamentalist leader".)
Another example of this situation was demonstrated on Bob Bixby's blog, Pensees, in his article entitled, Rise Up O Men of God. In that post, Pastor Bixby commented:
I have personal experience with fundamentalist leaders (many more than five) who are/were liars, adulterers, child molesters, and/or cheaters. This does not figure the ones who have been disgraced formerly, but who are currently held in high esteem.
My concern is this:
When we make comments about "a major fundamentalist leader" and then the kind of comments that Dr. Burrell makes, or when we make comments about "fundamentalist leaders" and the type of comments that Pastor Bixby makes, in our attempt to be general, we slander all others who may fit the general description. We would be much better off to state publicly who we are talking about (and if the accusation is true, they deserve all the shame and ridicule that comes with such public indentification) rather than leaving the accusation as a possible indictment against any who happen to fit the description.
So, I wonder if it would not be better for us to just go ahead and name the person we are using as these negative examples in the discussions rather than given descriptions that may lead people to think what is being said is true of someone of whom it is not true.
Just my thoughts,
Frank
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What's A Pastor to Do? Great Article
Saturday, June 10, 2006Those of you who have visited here very much know that I do not generally just point you to other posts without commenting myself, but Larry Rogier over at Stuff Out Loud has an excellent post on the Pastor's preaching role that all Pastors should take the time to read (hmm, does that contradict what he has said in this post? :) ).
The article is entitled, What's A Pastor to Do?
Just his thoughts (but good ones),
Frank
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Why is this News?
Monday, June 05, 2006Ben over at PaleoEvangelical asks "Why Would an Independent Fundamental Baptist Preach in a Reformed Presbyterian Seminary?" and comments on Dr. Kevin Bauder's recent address to the graduating students at Geneva Reformed Seminary in Greenville, South Carolina where former BJU professor (and a teacher I endjoyed very much at school) Dr. Michael P.V. Barrett is the president. There are also some comments going on about this at SharperIron.
My take:
Why is this news?
Now, if it is news because it is a great message. That is fine. I have downloaded it, but have not yet had the opportunity to listen to it. I hope to do so tomorrow.
What I don't understand, however, is why some like Ben and some of the commentators over at SI seem to think this is unusual or that this is some kind of "shift" in the practice of separation among Fundamentalism.
Fundamentalism has always been a multi-denominational movement/idea. From the Niagra Bible Conferences to the writing of The Fundamentals to today includes a continued history of this type of multi-denominational emphasis at places and organizations such as BJU and The World Congress of Fundamentals and the American Council of Christian Churches.
Fundamentalists fellowshiping with other Fundamentalists across denominational lines has happened for years. In fact, Dr. Barrett, the President of the Seminary that hosted this event, taught alongside a number of Baptist and Bible church guys for years at BJU.
It seems to me, that some are hoping that this will somehow open up fellowship with "conservative evangelicals" using the logic that "we can fellowship with those with whom we disagree, so let's fellowship with them, too." The problem with this thinking is that Dr. Bauder is not advocating fellowship with those who involved in compromising relationships, but rather with other separated believers with whom we have differences. It is important to understand about Bauder at this seminary is that it is a Fundamentalist at a Fundamentalist seminary. He is not by action or word advocating acceptance of compromise and that seems to be what the people who are wanting to make this out to be unusual are wanting to push.
Me thinks this is not what some are wanting to make it out to be.
Just my thoughts,
Frank
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It's All Over
Saturday, June 03, 2006There is no joy in Suns-ville, the mighty Phoenix Suns struck out. It is hard to believe that a team that started the game so hot could give up a third-quarter lead and loose by double-digits the second game in a row. I thought the Suns still had a chance until Josh Howard hit the three-point shot to put the Dallas Mavericks back up by 10. The way this team had overacheived this year and the way they kept on winning with their backs on the wall, I thought this might be a Sunderella season (to borrow an expression from legendary Suns writer Joe Gilmartin.) You knew that there was now Dirk was going to put up another 50 and I figured Steve Nash was due for a big game, but alas, it was not to be. As a Suns fan, I feel the words of the tin-man are especially relevant - "Now I know I have a heart, because it is broken."
The good side of this is that the Suns should have Amare back next year and if they can do this well without him, let's hope that next year will bring in the era of the Suns as Amare, Shawn, Steve and company start a run of multiple championships. (Hey, we deserve it!) Since I have already borrowed about every expression I can think of, I might as well add another favorite expression of my favorite basenall team (from their Brooklyn days) - "Wait 'til next year!"
Just my bummed thoughts,
Frank
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We interrupt this silence
Thursday, June 01, 2006Last week was a very frustrating week. I lost not one, not two, but THREE computers in one week! I am hoping and praying that these losses were not permanent.
(In case you are wondering, they were all three "e-machines" (read really cheap) and they were bought in 1999, 2001, and 2003 and were running Win 98, ME and XP). The newer one is the one that really hurts, as it had a lot of pictures on it that had not been burned to CD yet as well as a bunch of sermons and a bunch of other things that it will take me a long time to replace/re-do. Two of the computers and the hard drive from the newer one are at a computer repair place. Best case scenario: He is able to get one good computer out of the three. Worst case scenario: My wife murders me because of loosing all the pictures :). Minimally hoped for scenario: He is at least able to recover the hard drive from the new one.
I was wondering about other people's philosophy of computer buying. Do you go and get the nice $1000 - $1500 desktop system that has all of the newest bells and whistles when you buy a new computer reasoning that it has all you need for awhile and it is better built or do you get the cheap little e-machines (or HP, etc.) that is still a generation or so behind on the bells and whistles but costs under $500?
My thinking (up to now) has been to buy the cheap machine for the less money and then buy the next generation up in a couple of years, etc. For instance, I bought the newest of the ones that just died at Christmas time of 2003 for around $150 (after rebates, etc.). Even though it died, I figure that I had a computer that would do what I needed it to do for about 2 1/2 years at a rate of about $60 a year. At that rate, the $1000 computer would have to last me until 2019 to have been as cost-effective. By that time, anything that the $1000 computer could do better than the $150 computer would have been obsolete long ago.
So, from a cost analysis, the cheaper computers seem to be the way to go, but what are the arguments on the other side? After an incident like this last week, I am sure that I am missing some good arguments on the other side.
(FWIW, I don't blame the dead computer on my picture and data loss - if it ends up being lost - that is simply my own stupidity for not using the CD-R/RW for what it is designed.)
I will likely be buying a new desktop in the relatively new future, so I would actually like to hear some input on this question if you have thought about it much.
On another note, I do plan on returning to more regularly scheduled blogging soon. (And, oh yeah, GO SUNS!)
Just my thoughts,
Frank
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Suns Win! Suns Win!
Tuesday, May 23, 2006After a hard-fought series against the suprisingly tough L.A. Clippers, the Phoenix Suns have advanced to the Western Conference Finals of the NBA Playoffs for the second year in a row. Trying to win a championship for the first time in franchise history, the Suns have advanced one step closer as they face the Dallas Mavericks in the next round of the playoffs. In a year that many thought the Suns would be doing well just to make the playoffs after the loss of Amare Stoudamire before the start of the season, Steve Nash and company are turning heads and raising hopes in the Valley of the Sun.
I would love to be able to be in Phoenix for some of these playoffs (and have the money to actually go to a game). For that matter, I wish we at least had cable so that I could actually watch the game instead of watching the "play by play" on ESPN.com.
While I feel sorry for my good friends in Cleveland over their loss against the "Bad Boys", I am glad the Suns are moving on. I think that Phoenix is definitely positioned to be the underdog to root for from here on out in the playoffs. (I mean, come on, who could actually root for the Mavs or either of those two teams remaining in the East?)
GOOOOOOOOOOOO SUNS!
Just some sports thoughts from a transplanted Phoenician,
Frank
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The Problem with The DaVinci Code
Wednesday, May 17, 2006Below is the text for the article that I wrote about on my last post. It should be posted soon in .pdf format on the FFBC website, as well. (Please note, there are a couple of minor differences between this version and the article that was edited to fit in the space needed for publication in the FFBC Spotlight, the .pdf version is the edited version and, when printed, fits on a regular sheet of paper and has a nice layout, etc.)
THE DAVINCI CODE by Pastor Frank Sansone
The DaVinci Code by Dan Brown has become an international phenomenon. As a hardback book, it has been on the famed "Bestseller List" of The New York Times for over 160 weeks and has been declared to be the "all-time best-selling adult novel." Reports indicate that over forty million copies of the book have been sold and it has been translated into over forty languages. With the recent release of the book in paperback and a movie based on the book starring popular actor Tom Hanks, the conversation around The DaVinci Code only promises to get louder in the coming days.
The popularity of this book has earned the author a place on Time Magazine's list of "The World's 100 Most Influential People." A quick look reveals that this book has been the catalyst behind a whole range of other books, articles, web-sites, and documentaries which trumpet or expand upon many of the ideas promoted in this book. In addition, there have been a number of books and articles written which have sought to correct the "alternative history" that is presented in The DaVinci Code.
Why has The DaVinci Code warranted such attention? Aren't people - especially Christians - just overreacting to a fictional novel? Does Dan Brown actually hit on some deep, dark secrets that strike at the root of Christianity? Was Jesus really married to Mary Magdalene and did He have children that carried on His blood? Did the early church really think that Jesus was merely a mortal prophet until Constantine got them all together and made up the idea that Jesus was God? How should Christians respond to the claims of The DaVinci Code?
While the length of this article does not allow for a full treatment of all of these issues, it is the desire of this article to highlight some of the issues presented by The DaVinci Code and present some suggested responses for believers.
BOOK OVERVIEW
The plot of the book is rather straightforward. The curator of the Louvre in France is murdered by an albino monk and leaves a coded message for his estranged granddaughter, Sophie. Sophie, who is a police cryptologist joins up with Robert Langdon, a Harvard professor in religious symbology, as they seek to find out the meaning of her grandfather's coded message and escape from the police and others. During their escape, they must break a series of codes and follow secret messages throughout France and Britain. Central to these codes is the idea that the grandfather was the Grand Master of a secret society called the Priory of Sion, whose goal has been to protect the Holy Grail and keep its secrets. The twist ensues, however, when it becomes revealed that the Holy Grail, rather than being the legendary "cup of Christ" that supposedly held the blood of Christ and was sought in the Middle Ages, is instead actually Mary Magdalene, who held the blood of Christ by being the mother of His children.
As the book progresses, a wholly different world of alternative histories promotes as fact the idea that Jesus Christ was merely a mortal prophet, that Mary Magdalene was in reality the wife of Jesus Christ and the mother to His child, that Christ believed in a "sacred feminine" and that a sexual rite is needed for man to experience union with the divine, that there has been a vast cover-up by the Catholic Church and Christians about all of these things and that Constantine basically "made up" Christianity for political purposes in the 4th Century A.D.
If many of these ideas were presented in a non-fiction work, the outlandish nature of these claims would be subjected to critique and exposed as the bad and distorted history that they are. Unfortunately, the way things are presented in the book, it is not as easy to understand what is true and what is false. Mr. Brown gives his main characters an outstanding knowledge of art and history and often has those characters display that knowledge while mixing in the "alternative history" as part of the descriptions. This mixing in of the true history with the untrue "alternative history" is what leads to much of the confusion regarding this book. To add to the apparent credibility of his ideas, on the first page of the novel, Mr. Brown presents some "facts" and claims that "all descriptions of artwork, architecture, documents, and secret rituals in this novel are accurate." In doing so, Mr. Brown makes an underlying claim of accuracy and then uses the shield of fiction to present his views, giving these radical view the air of authority by having his "enlightened" characters bring to the forefront his ideas and present those ideas as well-established fact.
For instance, consider these words from Sir Leigh Teabing, a "former British Royal Historian":
"the early Church needed to convince the world that the mortal prophet Jesus was a divine being. Therefore, any gospels that described earthly aspects of Jesus' life had to be omitted from the Bible. Unfortunately for the early editors, one particularly troubling earthly theme kept recurring in the gospels. Mary Magdalene." He paused. "More specifically, her marriage to Jesus Christ."
"I beg your pardon?" Sophie's eyes moved to Langdon and then back to Teabing.
"It's a matter of historical record," Teabing said. (1)
In addition to all the distortions presented as indisputable fact, he also makes a point that "history is written by the ‘winners'" and that therefore we cannot trust the history as recorded because it is biased against the truth that has been covered up and suppressed all these years.
EVALUATION
While Mr. Brown likes to claim that this book is based on fact and well-researched, in reality, Mr. Brown presents a work that is a lopsided presentation built upon faulty documents, personal bias, and inaccurate details.
Faulty documents
Much of the undergirding for the claims in this novel are based upon two sets of faulty documents. The first set is the Gnostic Gospels, in particular those found at Nag Hammadi in Egypt. Teabing speaks about these records highly, calling them, "the earliest Christian records" and uses them to support his claim that Jesus and Mary Magdalene were married.
The reality is that these documents were not even close to being "the earliest Christian records." In fact, they were written well after the Gospel accounts and other books that make up the New Testament. They were rejected by the early church because of their lack of authenticity (e.g. written by people using fake names long after the named author was dead) and their departure from the Christian message as presented by the Apostles and those that followed them.
Another set of faulty documents at the core of this story is the Les Dossiers Secrets. This is the documents that Brown uses to support his list of the Grand Masters of the Priory of Sion - including Leonardo Da Vinci and Sir Isaac Newton. This list is referred to a number of times to give a picture of importance to this secret organization. The problem, however, is that these documents which are presented as historically reliable were actually a forgery. Pierre Plantard, the man who supposedly found the documents, admitted under oath to a French judge in 1993 that the documents were forged - yet Brown used these documents and presented them as historically authenticated.
Personal Bias
While it is not my intention to belabor this point, Dan Brown has explained in interviews that he actually believes the underlying views that are expressed in his book. The book therefore becomes a way in which he is able to get his bias towards this view into the mainstream.
Consider these statements from an article in The Washington Post.
"I was skeptical, but after a year and a half of research, I became a believer, " says Brown.
"Do you believe that Jesus was actually married to Magdalene?" "I do," he says. (2)
When Sophie declares that she does not know much about the Bible because she was raised by a man who worshiped Leonardo Da Vinci, Teabing responds, "An enlightened soul. Superb!" (3)
Inaccurate Details
Throughout the book, Robert Langdon and Leigh Teabing are presented as "experts", yet, in a number of cases, the information that they declare to the reader is actually inaccurate information - sometimes completely wrong and other times a distortion of the truth.
Robert Langdon describes the etymology of YHWH (the personal name of God) by explaining it being derived from Jehovah, when in fact Jehovah comes from a mixing of the Hebrew consonants YHWH with the Hebrew vowels for the word Adonai (another word for God or Lord).
Teabing mentions over 80 gospels, when, even with counting the very late ones written centuries after Christ, there were not anywhere close to that many.
Langdon describes Shekinah as God's "powerful female equal" rather than the cloud that represented God's glory.
Teabing claims that the idea of Christ being God came about at the Council of Nicea and was the result of a vote that was "a close vote." The reality is that the earliest Christian documents - including the books that make up our New Testament, clearly declared the deity of Jesus Christ more than two hundred years before the Council of Nicea. While it is true that the Council of Nicea affirmed the deity of Christ and stood against the heretic Arius, even that was not a "close vote" as only three of the over 300 bishops refused to sign the document affirming the deity of Christ that came out of the Council.
Many other instances like these could be pointed out in the writings.
CONCLUSION
There is much that The Da Vinci Code claims that makes for a great conspiracy theory. But, like most conspiracy theories, when confronted with the light of the truth and the facts of history, this great "alternative history" that Dan Brown espouses in the book does not stand up to scrutiny. His personal bias allows him to elevate unreliable documents to a place of primary importance and he weaves many inaccurate details into his writing to try to make his case look much stronger than it is.
As believers, we should be prepared to give an answer of the hope that lies within (I Peter 3:15). The nature of the size of this article does not allow for a full presentation of all the issues contained in The Da Vinci Code to be addressed. For a fuller discussion on these issues and other issues related to The Da Vinci Code, some valuable resources would be the book, Breaking the Da Vinci Code by Darrell L. Bock, a series of articles in the publication Nick of Time written by Dr. Kevin Bauder of Central Baptist Theological Seminary and found online at http://www.centralseminary.edu/index.asp?m=701 and a section devoted to this book on the Radio Bible Class web- site at http://www.rbcdavincicode.org.
(1) Brown, Dan, The Da Vinci Code, p. 244.
(2) Roberts, Roxanne, "The Da Vinci Code", The Washington Post, Aug. 2, 2003.
(3) Brown, Dan, The Da Vinci Code, p. 230.
File under Culture_War, Christianity_, Book_Reviews
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??Dave Doran to Replace Jim Schettler as PCC Campus Church Pastor???
ATTENTION: THOSE LOOKING FOR INFORMATION ON JIM SCHETTLER READ THIS POST - The Whereabouts of Pastor Jim Schettler.
This exchange on Chris Anderson's blog was too funny to be left in the obscurity of comments section.
Chris posted about the Cavs evening the series with the Pistons and made some comments about Dr. Doran and the Pistons.
Dave says
May 16th, 2006 at 8:01 pm
I have a conspiracy theory…the Pistons felt bad for the pysche of Cleveland since the Tigers were sweeping the Indians. Seems plausible to me.
No name changes for the seminary, but I tell you what. Given the title of this post (and subsequent comment), here’s what I will do if Cleveland wins–I will send my resume to Arlin Horton for consideration as the replacement for Jim Shettler. Now, if the Pistons win, then I think the YoBF Boys need to do some special music at the Church Planting conference in June. Maybe you could work on a special Motown version.
Chris Says:
May 16th, 2006 at 9:47 pm
The YoBF Boyz singing a tribute to Motown? Nice. We’d better work on our choreography.
Two things about the series, Doc. First, this post is much less confident than the notes you sent a few days back. What happened?? Second, you may be tempting fate with your rash vow about the Campus Church. Too funny. Just think of all the fans you just won for the Pistons from a certain school down south!
After Cleveland upsets Detroit in Detroit to go up 3 games to 2 in the series:
Dave Says:
May 17th, 2006 at 9:39 pm
We all do know I was kidding about that resume thing, right?
Now, that is funny!
Read the whole thread to get a better feel of the context.
Just my thoughts,
Frank
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Da Vinci Code Article Published; Internet Problems
Saturday, May 13, 2006Some of you may be aware that I have been researching for an article about Dan Brown's book, The DaVinci Code. (I know, hasn't everybody?)
Anyway, this article has been published in the FFBC Spotlight and is available for distribution to churches. If you are interested in copies, contact Pastor Ron Whitehead of Bethel Bible Baptist Church in Penns Grove, NJ.
The article should also be available soon for reading in Adobe format at the Fellowship of Fundamental Bible Church's website (www.ffbc.ws).
I am currently experiencing internet difficulties, so I will probably not be able to post it here until at least Wednesday. (Sorry)
When I return from my internet problems, I plan on posting it and perhaps expanding on a couple of the points that could not be covered as thoroughly as I would have liked due to the formatting size needed for the Spotlight article (it is designed to be the size that it could be used for a bulletin insert).
In the meantime, if you have not already done so, check out Dr. Kevin Bauder's articles on this topic at Central Seminary.
Just my thoughts,
Frank
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"Dangerous" Professors
Thursday, May 11, 2006I have seen a couple of things lately about a man named David Horowitz and his work regarding a promotion of an Academic Bill of Rights, as well as his book The Professors: The 101 Most Dangerous Academics in America.
I know very little about this man, so this is not meant to be an endorsement of him. My knowlege of him basically consists of reading a few articles about him and watching most of a debate between he and Colorado Professor Ward Churchill (who is famous for calling the victims of the World Trade Center attacks "little Eichmans") over this concept of Academic Freedom. The basic premise of Mr. Horowitz's position seems to be that professors who are funded by tax-payer dollars should teach the subject that they are assigned to teach and should leave politics, religion, etc. that are not part of their subject matter out of the classrooom. I think that Mr. Horowitz has a good point in this area.
What I find interesting some of the responses to his book (mentioned above). One of the professors that he listed, Mark Levine (who teaches Middle Eastern history at UC Irvine), wrote an article on Mother Jones in which he decried Mr. Horowitz - especially the fact that Mr. Horowitz was unqualified to make comments against him because Mr. Horowitz had not read Mr. Levine's books. (I wonder if Mr. Levine has read the books of Mr. Horowitz since he uses the fact that Mr. Horowitz has not read his books as an attempt to discredit him).
Anyway, what I found particularly interesting in Mr. Levine's article was this statement.
Even if we accept that these two schools, and dozens more, have a disproportionate number of progressive faculty, how can we make generalizations about the entire post-secondary educational system from these few cases? Aren't there dangerous conservative-leaning schools as well? How about Liberty Baptist University or Bob Jones University?
Apparently, one of the qualities you need in order to be a "dangerous" professor is to not understand the difference between a private employees and government employees.
It seems to me that, in a taxpayer-funded educational system, asking for the professor to keep their teaching to the things that they are supposed to be covering makes some sense.
Just my thoughts,
Frank
Posted by Frank Sansone at 5:18 PM 1 comments
We Beat L.A., now let's beat L.A. again
Sunday, May 07, 2006The Phoenix Suns finished off the L.A. Lakers in a commanding fashion last night to end what should have been an "easy" first round series against a lesser foe. I was not able to actually watch the game, but I did get to "watch" some of the play-by-play thanks to ESPN.com's GameCast.
I don't generally use this space to talk sports much, but as a lifelong Suns fan, it was great to see them come out on top in this series.
To top it off, today, Nash officially wins his second M.V.P award in a row. Very cool.
Just my thoughts,
Frank
Posted by Frank Sansone at 2:56 PM 6 comments
I Don't Get It!
Wednesday, May 03, 2006I have been following the discussion on Chris Anderson's Blog regarding the recent Together For the Gospel Conference. It is in many ways similar to another discussion that occurred about the Resolution of the Ohio Bible Fellowship regarding reading with caution the works of Conservative New Evangelicals.
I don't get what the big problem that Keith and others have with a word of caution that is indeed in order in these situations.
I don't want to say it over there because Dr. Doran and Pastor Anderson are handling things quite nicely without my interference, but since this is my soap box, I will go ahead and say it here: WARN AWAY!!
The reality is that the greatest need for a warning is where there is the most likely opportunity to fall.
The typical "young fundamentalist" of this generation is not being enamored with liberal Protestantism. They are not leaving the pastorate for the priesthood. They are not trading in their Bibles for Korans. They are not even discarding the principles of separation in order to preach at a Billy Graham crusade. There are some, however, who look at the good things done, written and spoken by the type of men represented by T4G and think "these are good men, smart men, successful men and they do not have a problem with lending credibility to open theism (for instance) by being associated with its main proponent in the same denomination," so maybe separation from error is not really that important. After all, how could such good men be wrong on this issue?
A lot of people have taken umbrage against the fact that the OBF (and Chris) warned against those whose ministries are most similar to their own as if it was some kind of "power play."
The reality is that in life, as well as in ministry, there are some problems that some people are more prone to fall into than others. A wise person, yea a wise shepherd, sees the need to warn and protect the sheep from the traps that are most likely to snare them.
As a teen, my parents used to joke around with me about "playing in the runway" at the airport. The reality was that they knew that would never be a problem, so we could joke about it, etc. However, when a particularly pretty blonde started to pay a lot of attention to me one summer, my dad did not joke about this issue, but rather sat me down and discussed some things that he had noticed regarding her that would help me to be more cautious when around her. Now, did I absolutely need the warning my dad issued? I would hope that the answer is "no." I had become a Christian by this time (I was saved as a Freshman in high school) and had started to develop some personal standards in this area. However, did I begrudge my dad for giving me a wise and caring caution about a situation that he thought could lead me to trouble? Absolutely not. I may have been a little embarrassed, but I appreciated his concern.
Now, judging by the responses of those like Keith on Chris' blog, one might argue, well you dad should have been out there giving you a warning every time you saw a girl or to not warn you about that particular girl if he was to be consistent. The reality is that such an argument is foolishness. There was already a general warning about relationships to the opposite sex (albeit my convictions were stronger than his in this area). Further, he knew that most of the "looser" girls were not even going to be an issue with me. He also knew that most of the more "conservative" girls that I might be interested in were not going to be a problem initially (unless I started to get too attached to them). This particular girl, however, had some very appealing qualities and did a better job at hiding the "looser" qualities than most, so my dad thought it wise to give me a warning in this area. I am thankful for that warning, even though I think I would have been fine without it.
Now, applying that example to the situation at hand. Most of the liberals and mainstream New Evangelicals do not have an appeal to the typical "young fundamentalist" (I don't like that term). Most of the conservative fundamentalists (not IFBx) are not going to be a problem unless our young fundamentalist friend begins to get too serious in following them. The conservative new evangelicals, however, have much that makes them appealing and their flaws are hidden much better than most. Be thankful for the warning. If you are strong enough and see the issues clearly enough to not need the warning, praise God. If you were getting caught up in their appeal and ignoring their flaws, then maybe the warning will be a help.
Just my thoughts,
Frank
File under Fundamentalism_, Hot_Issues, New_Evangelicalism
Posted by Frank Sansone at 12:52 PM 9 comments
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Jon Meacham - Produce Proof or Publicly Apologize!
Friday, April 28, 2006I had posted this earlier, but had removed it while I was waiting to hear back from Mr. Meacham. I am re-posting it at this time with the intention of updating it when he gets back to me.
Newsweek managing editor Jon Meacham recently spoke at the inauguration of John Lilley as the president of Baylor University.
If the reports by Tim Woods of the Waco Tribune-Herald are accurate, I believe that Jon Meacham needs to produce some proof regarding one of the claims he made in the speech or publicly apologize to Bob Jones University.
The article is here: Newsweek editor's speech highlights Lilley's inauguration as Baylor head
The particularly egregrious comment, in my opinion is found below:
Meacham interspersed jokes with serious discussion of faith and people’s intellectual examination of their own beliefs. He told the crowd of an e-mail he received from a man at Bob Jones University in Greenville, S.C., in response to an article he wrote for Newsweek.
“The message was to the point: Dear Mr. Meacham, I am praying for you, but I hope you go to hell,” Meacham said.
I cannot honestly believe that Mr. Meacham received such an email from "a man at Bob Jones University." It sounds a lot more like something someone who only knows a caricature of BJU may believe people at BJU think and say, rather than what someone who is actually at BJU would think or say.
If such an email does exist, I want to see it. I would like some proof. I have sent an email to Newsweek seeking a clarification from Mr. Meacham, but the initial reply I got (an automated response with FAQs) led me to believe that I probably will not get much of a response. However, I did get an email in which Mr. Meacham has promised to respond to my concerns.
As a believer and as a BJU graduate, I can attest that I have never heard anyone at BJU express a desire that matches what is claimed to have been included in this email. Christians do not "hope" people go to Hell. We desire for their repentance, not their ultimate damnation.
Mr. Meacham's offense will probably not get any play in the MSM, but it is not an innocent offense. Perhaps it would be better understood by Mr. Meacham and his friends if the shoe were on the other foot and someone prominent were quoted as saying, "I received a email from a member of the editorial staff at Newsweek and he said that we are going to be devote ourselves to denigrating Christianity as often as we can and we hope that we can get all Christians to stop subscribing to our magazine." Surely they would expect some proof of this email or demand an apology. I am sure that they would already have their lawyers working on a lawsuit by now.
So, let's see it, Mr. Meacham. Put up or apologize. If you actually have some proof, I will just a publically call for an apology from the person who wrote the email and/or the school. I seriously doubt any such proof exists.
Just my thoughts,
Frank
Posted by Frank Sansone at 12:36 PM 3 comments
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Happy Birthday to my Big Girl
Wednesday, April 26, 2006
Today is the birthday of my oldest daughter, Christina Ruth Sansone. She turns seven today, but we already had her birthday party on Saturday.
Happy Birthday, Christina. I hope that you have had a good birthday today and that you enjoyed having a "school birthday" as well. It hardly seems possible that you are already seven years old. How big you have gotten to be!
I love you, big girl. I love your sensitive spirit. You have always been a quiet and sweet girl. Even when you were young, you managed to find ways to entertain yourself and have fun all on your own. I remember when you were young we could sit you on a blanket with a couple of toys and you would stay there and play with them - we could never get your brother to do that! (And you know we can't get Beka to do that!)
I remember when you came up with your own version of "lizards and sharks" - you were much more relational with them - they had to be friends and do things together, rather than attack each other. Your love for others and your desire to help them is an encouragement to me - how many other little girls do you know who are willing to clean up their brother's room without him even asking? I guarantee you, not many!
I know this last year or so of transition has not been easy for you. You miss your old friends a lot, not just the children, but the older ones like the teen girls who babysat you back in NJ. Hopefully we can visit some of them again soon.
You are growing up soo big. You do a really good job at helping out (when you want to) and you have a very nice singing voice that I love to hear when Mommy plays for you before church on Wednesday nights. I can't believe that you are growing up so fast. A big part of me wants to just stop things so that you and Josiah and Rebekah can always be my little children. Please keep your love for God primary and keep your love for your family and others strong.
I love you, big girl. I pray for you and I hope you have a good birthday.
Love,
Daddy
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Posted by Frank Sansone at 1:50 PM 0 comments
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Newsweek post temporarily removed
Monday, April 24, 2006Earlier today I had published a post about a statement made by an editor of Newsweek. I had emailed Newsweek, but based on the automated response I received from them, I did not expect for my email to actually be answered. I then posted here about the situation. Since my initial post, I have been contacted via email by the person in question and he has expressed an interest in calling me to clarify the situation that I was discussing.
I have therefore removed the previous post until I get get a chance to hear the other side of the story. If you came back here looking for that previous post, I hope you will understand. I will fill in the details once I have had a chance to receive and process this new information.
Just my thoughts,
Frank
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Sermons available for listening and downloading
Saturday, April 22, 2006After some considerable time trying to figure things out, I am pleased to be able to announce that we are now able to make some of our Sunday Sermons will be available on our church web-site.
It is not our current plan to upload every sermon, as we do not have the space for that type of thing, but it is our desire to make a few sermons available for those who are interested. The new sermons can be found by clicking on the "Audio" link on the main church website page at http://www.fellowshipbaptist-salisbury.org.
The first sermon that has been made available on the web-site is the message from last Sunday (Easter Sunday), entitled "Responses to the Resurrection" on Matthew 28. It can be found through the main church web page as described above, or it can also be accessed through clicking here.
I hope that you find this helpful.
Just my thoughts,
Frank
Posted by Frank Sansone at 11:37 PM 2 comments
Labels: Christianity, Fellowship Baptist Church
Jesus Walked on Ice?? You have to be kidding me
Thursday, April 20, 2006In one of the stranger attempts to explain away a miracle of Christ that I have seen, an article in the April 2006 edition of the Journal of Paleolimnology suggests that rather than walking on water, Jesus actually walked on ice.
Here is an article about the article: Jesus Could Have Walked on Ice, Scientist Says
I wonder if this scientist or the author of the article actually took time to read the Biblical account of this story.
Mt 14:24-33 But the ship was now in the midst of the sea, tossed with waves: for the wind was contrary. And in the fourth watch of the night Jesus went unto them, walking on the sea. And when the disciples saw him walking on the sea, they were troubled, saying, It is a spirit; and they cried out for fear. But straightway Jesus spake unto them, saying, Be of good cheer; it is I; be not afraid. And Peter answered him and said, Lord, if it be thou, bid me come unto thee on the water. And he said, Come. And when Peter was come down out of the ship, he walked on the water, to go to Jesus. But when he saw the wind boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink, he cried, saying, Lord, save me. And immediately Jesus stretched forth his hand, and caught him, and said unto him, O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt? And when they were come into the ship, the wind ceased. Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.
If you notice, in the story, there are a number of factors that make this "theory" rediculous.
1. The disciples (of whom a majority are experienced fishermen who had spent much time on this very lake) are in a boat and don't notice all the supposed ice.
2. Christ not only walks on water Himself, He also bids Peter come out and walk on the water, without letting Peter know where to find the floating ice.
3. Apparently Peter's ice was not any good, as Peter began to sink.
This attempted explanation reminds of the old discussion when people claim that the Israelites only crossed a swamp instead of the God parting the Red Sea. Okay, then explain how Pharoah's army all drowned in this swamp.
Christ walked on water. It was a miracle. The disciples recognized it as such and responded the way we all should respond to the miraculous Christ - they worshipped Him.
Just my thoughts,
Frank
File under Bible_, Culture_War, Fundamentalism_
Posted by Frank Sansone at 1:30 AM 2 comments
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Science is going to save the world! - Ignorance is bliss
Wednesday, April 19, 2006A Cliff J. from Chico, California recently demonstrated how ignorance can be bliss, even in the name of "science".
From the Chico Enterprise-Record's website (ChicoEr.com), we are given a beautiful little gem of wisdom under the title "The enlightened masses?"
Among the pieces of wisdom dispensed out from this short piece of writing are the following:
Science education is going to be what ultimately unifies the world, not Bush or Osama bin Laden and the powers from above that they both say are guiding them. But how to spread the truth? Maybe drop science books instead of bombs. How about missionary scientists, using the humanitarian pretense as a means to deliver their message?
I am all for science education and education in general. Of course, what I would encourage in the realm of science education would look a little different than our friend Cliff would envision. For one thing, I would be against the propoganda of evolution being taught as fact in a taxpayer funded educational institution, which i am guessing is exactly what Cliff thinks is so great about "science".
His next quote is also interesting:
Closed minds are everywhere. Here in America, we don't imprison scientists like the Catholic Church did with Galileo, but we still see the fundamentalists terrorizing their children into not listening to their public school science teacher by telling the kids that their teacher is an agent of the devil. Instead of burning the books, they burn the minds of their children, so they're afraid to read the book.
His vitriolic spirit is clearly demonstrated here, as well as his ignorance. First of all, many of the children of fundamentalists are already out of the public school system. Secondly, those children that are still in the government schools are not being terrorized into not listening - they are instead being made aware that just because the teacher says it, does not make it true. Thirdly, no one is accusing the teacher of being an agent of the devil.
Ironically, it is the side of Cliff that comes the closest to advocating burning books in this discussion. Both the Creation Science side and the ID side (I have issues with ID, but not for this post) are advocating providing more information and presenting additional viewpoints to this discussion. It is the "science establishment" in the government schools who are seeking to keep the ideas that are opposed to them oppressed.
When Cliff uses the example of Galileo, it provides a nice parallel, but the parallel works the opposite of his own intention.
In the discussion of the helio-centric universe, we had a powerful and established institution sure of their view and oppressing those who desired to question that view.
In the discussion of evolution and creation, we have a powerful and established institution sure of their view that is oppressing those who desire to question that view.
Cliff finishes off with this dandy,
Be thankful that the world's geologists didn't come from Bob Jones University, or Liberty University (Jerry Falwell's). If they did, your means of transportation would still be a donkey.
Folks, I could not make this up. Since when did the world geologists have anything significant to do with modes of transportation? Were those involved in the "horseless carriage" geologists? Were the Wright brothers geologists? Was Henry Ford a geologist? Please help me see the connection.
I guess as long as you believe that "science" will save the world, then such things as logic and reasoning are no longer necessary. Wow!
Just my thoughts,
Frank
File under Culture_War, Education_, Hot_Issues
Posted by Frank Sansone at 12:30 PM 2 comments
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Some comments and questions
Tuesday, April 18, 2006If you have visited A Thinking Man's Thoughts previously, you surely recognize that there has been some changes made to the blog. You have also probably noticed that until the last day or so it had been a while since I did much posting on this blog.
If you read the post about the Building Dedication, you can probably guess some of the real world issues that have caused blogging to take a back seat. (What the real world trumps blogging? I am obviously a bad blogger!) Another real world project that I have been working on is designing our church website - www.fellowshipbaptist-salisbury.org (we officially changed our name on the Building Dedication Sunday). I also have been working on trying to start digitally recording our sermons at Fellowship Baptist Church,
I am still in the process of making changes to the blog, but I will highlight a couple of these changes and ask for some feedback from those who visit here.
1. Overall layout
I have wanted to set up a three-column layout for awhile now (I tried a few months ago), but I could not figure out how to do it. Part of the idea to this adjusted format is that more of what I want to be visible at a quick glance will now be available without having to scroll down so much. I found the layout at Thur's Templatez
2. Categories for Blogger!!!
One of the frustrations that many people have with Blogger is that there is not a built-in way to tag blog posts into categories. For a lot of people, this is frustrating. A few months ago, I started to move my blog over to Wordpress in part because of this fact. Thanks to netcf2, I finally have a way to do this. Thank you to whoever runs the netcf2 site, as it allows me to have categories for the blog without loosing my "google juice." (One drawback is that I need to go through my old posts and set them up in the categories, but I am making progress!)
3. Added a picture of a thinking man.
One of the more frequent searches that find their way to my site is people looking for a picture of a thinking man. So, I thought I would reward all of those who come here looking for it by at least showing a part of the picture. A believe the picture most people are probably looking for is called "The Thinker" by Rodin.
Anyway, I would love to hear some comments on the overall layout and the categories, etc. (I will say that I have already had one person indicate that they like the old look better.)
Just my thoughts,
Frank
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Posted by Frank Sansone at 11:17 PM 5 comments
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Building Dedication Sunday
On Sunday, April 9, we celebrated our Building Dedication Sunday at Fellowship Baptist Church. It was great to see many people come out to join us for this special day. We had a number of friends and visitors from locally, as well as a good group of people from our former church (Hardingville Bible Church).
In the morning service, Pastor Mark Franklin from Hardingville Bible Church preached, and he dealt with the building of the walls in Nehemiah's day and encouraged us as we move ahead as a group of believers.
In the afternoon service, Pastor Steve Wagner, the founding Pastor of Messiah Baptist Fellowship (now named Fellowship Baptist Church) spoke on Revelations 2-3 and dealt with the Lord Jesus Christ's messages to the seven churches.
We also enjoyed special music from Mr. John Fleming, Mr. Ken Dennis, and Mrs. Edna Woodhall and had a great time of food and fellowship at the new building.
Just my thoughts,
Frank
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Posted by Frank Sansone at 3:19 AM 1 comments
Labels: Christianity, Fellowship Baptist Church, Special Meetings
Preparation for Building Dedication
On Sunday, April 9, we held our Building Dedication Sunday at the church. It was a great day in which to thank God and to praise Him for what He has done in our midst. I plan on blogging about that soon and including some pictures later this week. Since I do not have the pictures for that day, yet, I thought I would take this space to highlight the work that has been done on the building and then do a post on the Building Dedication soon.
As I look around at the building, I am amazed at God's goodness to us as a church in providing for us such a wonderful place to meet. If someone had said to me last year that we would be in a building this nice by this time, I would have had difficulty believing it. If you had said to me a couple of months ago that the building we are in would look so nice, I would have had difficulty believing that as well.
One of the things that has been encouraging in this whole process is the way that practically everyone has chipped in and helped. It has truly been a team effort and the final product is much nicer than it would have been if I had been the one deciding things by myself.
Here are some pictures for those who have not had an opportunity to see the new building.
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A Word of Clarification
Saturday, April 01, 2006I received a lot of hits yesterday due to our little "Happy 19th Birthday Roast" of Scott Anoil. I think that most people who came here via SharperIron or from one of the other guys in the little link or from Scott's blog are aware of a couple of factors that some of my other readers (including some folks from my church, family members and people I know from other places) are probably unaware. SOOO, I wanted to make a couple of quick comments for the few of you who do fit in that category. I know it can be frustrating at times to be on the outside of an inside joke.
1. Scott Anoil is an Assistant Pastor in Illinois whose blog focuses primarily on the issue of Christian music and culture. I have never met him personally, but I have come to respect much of what he writes.
2. Scott is not 19 years old. He is really 26. So, no, he did not write the hymn that we use for Communion as an 18 year old. He is a prodigy of sorts, but not that much of a prodigy.
3. Yes. Scott really was in that picture of the children's choir - at the top. And yes, as far as I know, those are relatively recent pictures of Scott and he really does look like he is only 19 (or 16 of so), even though he is older than that.
4. If you did not go by and see Chris Anderson's addition after the main roast was over, you should go there. Chris has some great pictures (although the pop culture reference escapes me - I am guessing it is from some movie that I have not seen).
5. The obviously marked up picture with the leather jacket, etc. is menat to be a joke. Neither Scott, nor myself or anyone else who was part of this little "surprise" for Scott, would wear anything close to that picture.
Just my (hopefully clarifying) thoughts,
Frank
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